Understanding FFT in MATLAB

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Janee
Janee on 13 Mar 2024
Answered: Paul on 13 Mar 2024
I am exploring the differences between fftw in MATLAB and C/C++. I think this maybe a straightforward question but for some reason I don't see it.
Assume the following MATLAB code:
Nx = 8;
Ny = 8;
Lx =16;
%-----------
xi_x = (2*pi)/Lx;
xi = ((0:Nx-1)/Nx)*(2*pi);
x = xi/xi_x;
ylow = 0;
yupp =6;
ygl = cos ( pi * ( 0 : Ny ) / Ny )';
ygl = (1/2)*(((yupp-ylow)*ygl) + (yupp+ylow));
[X,Y] = meshgrid(x,ygl);
%define function u:
u = (Y-ylow) .* (Y-yupp) .* sin( (2*pi / Lx) * X);
uh = fft(u,[],2);
%pad uh with zeros
[Ny Nx]=size(uh);
m=Nx*3/2;
uhp=[uh(:,1:Nx/2) zeros(Ny,(m-Nx)) uh(:,Nx/2+1:Nx)];
%take ifft
up=real(ifft(uhp,[],2));
u1 = real(ifft(uh,[],2)); %same as u
My question above since both ``uh`` and ``uhp`` are the same values with extra zero padding, why is the inverse of fft of these two different? Meaning if ``uh`` is:
0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i
0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 5.2721i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i 0.0000 - 5.2721i
-0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 +18.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i 0.0000 -18.0000i
-0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 +30.7279i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i 0.0000 -30.7279i
-0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 +36.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i 0.0000 -36.0000i
-0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 +30.7279i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i 0.0000 -30.7279i
-0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 +18.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i 0.0000 -18.0000i
0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 5.2721i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i 0.0000 - 5.2721i
0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i
and ``uhp`` is:
0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i
0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 5.2721i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i 0.0000 - 5.2721i
-0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 +18.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i 0.0000 -18.0000i
-0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 +30.7279i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i 0.0000 -30.7279i
-0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 +36.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i 0.0000 -36.0000i
-0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 +30.7279i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i 0.0000 -30.7279i
-0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 +18.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i 0.0000 -18.0000i
0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 5.2721i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 + 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i -0.0000 - 0.0000i 0.0000 - 5.2721i
0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i 0.0000 + 0.0000i
Then why the `` real(ifft(uh,[],2))`` equals:
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 -0.9320 -1.3180 -0.9320 -0.0000 0.9320 1.3180 0.9320
-0.0000 -3.1820 -4.5000 -3.1820 -0.0000 3.1820 4.5000 3.1820
0 -5.4320 -7.6820 -5.4320 -0.0000 5.4320 7.6820 5.4320
-0.0000 -6.3640 -9.0000 -6.3640 -0.0000 6.3640 9.0000 6.3640
0 -5.4320 -7.6820 -5.4320 -0.0000 5.4320 7.6820 5.4320
-0.0000 -3.1820 -4.5000 -3.1820 -0.0000 3.1820 4.5000 3.1820
0 -0.9320 -1.3180 -0.9320 -0.0000 0.9320 1.3180 0.9320
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
and ``up=ifft(uhp,[],2); `` is:
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 -0.4393 -0.7610 -0.8787 -0.7610 -0.4393 -0.0000 0.4393 0.7610 0.8787 0.7610 0.4393
-0.0000 -1.5000 -2.5981 -3.0000 -2.5981 -1.5000 -0.0000 1.5000 2.5981 3.0000 2.5981 1.5000
0 -2.5607 -4.4352 -5.1213 -4.4352 -2.5607 -0.0000 2.5607 4.4352 5.1213 4.4352 2.5607
-0.0000 -3.0000 -5.1962 -6.0000 -5.1962 -3.0000 -0.0000 3.0000 5.1962 6.0000 5.1962 3.0000
0 -2.5607 -4.4352 -5.1213 -4.4352 -2.5607 -0.0000 2.5607 4.4352 5.1213 4.4352 2.5607
-0.0000 -1.5000 -2.5981 -3.0000 -2.5981 -1.5000 -0.0000 1.5000 2.5981 3.0000 2.5981 1.5000
0 -0.4393 -0.7610 -0.8787 -0.7610 -0.4393 -0.0000 0.4393 0.7610 0.8787 0.7610 0.4393
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
The reason I ask b/c in C/C++ when padding my arrays similarly and taking the ifft my code returns the same output, so ``real(ifft(uh,[],2))`` = ``real(ifft(uhp,[],2))``

Answers (1)

Paul
Paul on 13 Mar 2024
Hi Janee,
Speaking only to the Matlab side of this question, why would it expected that the rows of u1 and up be the same? Each row of u1 and up will have a different number of elements. Based that fact alone, how could u1 and up be the same?
I'm suprised with that result in C++.

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